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« on: November 20, 2009, 10:00:19 PM »

I am just staring out on this trail, and some help would be great....
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2009, 10:15:40 PM »

Welcome to HEO. What can we help you with?
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2009, 10:18:35 PM »

Hi Hischild

I assume the trail you talk about is divorce. It is a long trail with many ups and downs along the way. Take time to look inside yourself at what faults you may have brought into your marriage. But also realize that most of the time it is not just one person's fault. Find what you need to fix in you and then move forward. The pain eases with time, but it takes quite a while. There are many other people here that are ready to help you but the more information you give us the better we can help you.

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2009, 10:22:12 PM »

You have found a group of wonderful folks who are either traveling the divorce trail with you or have finished the trail and have come back to help others along the way.

Welcome to HEO and let us know how we can help.
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2009, 03:00:13 PM »

Yes, I am just starting out.  My husband tells me that this is not my fault, its his, he said he wanted to leave some time ago, I dont under stand how someone can tell you that they love you and want to spend the rest of their life with you and yet in the back of their mind they know they want to leave.  He has already started another relationship, thats how this all came about on the road to divorce.  He tells me that he never should have married me, he was not ready for another relationship just after he divorces he first wife.... he said she was abusive to him and he is messed up due to that marrage... But !  if he was not ready for our relationship, how can he start another, when ours has not ended (divorced).  He says he is sorry for hurting, and sorry for his mistreatment of me, and he see's me hurting , and runs to the arms of another womans..  I hurt so much, I feel like I am on a dark and only path, that have holes and rocks and I cant keep a sure footing.    I want to know ... when will the sun shine on my face again?Huh  He put my heart and emotions in a trash bag and handed it to me. Now I have to swift through it, finding whatever I can to use, to keep from going crazy, every wakeing hour I am thinking about, how am I going to get through this, roller coaster ride, I didn't purchase the ticket for???
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2009, 03:02:45 PM »

probably with your hands in the air kicking and screaming
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2009, 03:14:24 PM »

You will come out of this just fine, but it takes some time. The amount is different for everyone. Your stbx may actually be sad that he is hurting you. He may just never be happy in a current relationship. He may not understand his feelings himself. But all of that doesn't matter to you. Even if he gave a detailed explanation, you probably wouldn't understand. Not because your not smart, but because you are not seeing it through his eyes and his thinking, so try to let that go. It doesn't matter who hurt you, Hischild. What matters is only that you hurt, and only you can bring yourself out of it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2009, 03:25:27 PM »

Don't waste too much time trying to apply logic to what he says. It'll drive you crazy.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2009, 05:20:25 PM »

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He tells me that he never should have married me, he was not ready for another relationship just after he divorces he first wife.... he said she was abusive to him and he is messed up due to that marrage... But !  if he was not ready for our relationship, how can he start another, when ours has not ended (divorced)

You're right. He probably isn't ready for any relationship - he is broken and looking to others for the fix. He is blindly taking all of his problems with him.

What you can do now if focus on YOU. I'm sure your self esteem is in the tank (what has she got that I haven't?), what did I do wrong? and your emotions are rollercoasting every second.

I've copied an article for you.... sorry it is so long. But I hope it helps.

 
10 Tips to Get You Through a Breakup
Date updated: May 10, 2007
By Donna Engelgau
Content provided by Revolution Health Group

Breaking up is hard to do, but it's also a part of life. So is there a good way to do it?

Yes, says Sudha Prathikanti, M.D., a psychiatrist at the University of California, San Francisco's Osher Center for Integrative Medicine.

Prathikanti combines conventional mental health care with ayurveda (a form of holistic alternative medicine from India), yoga, herbs and other integrated approaches to help people manage grief stemming from breakups and the loss of loved ones. Here are her 10 tips for jump-starting the post-breakup healing process.
Give yourself time to grieve

Don't be afraid of whatever feelings come up during a breakup, whether it's sadness, fear or anger. Let your feelings surface and accept them.

"It's important to understand that breaking up can bring a kind of immediate grief that can overwhelm you. You need to accept your feelings and create time to grieve. There's no way to circumvent these feelings," Prathikanti says.

"There's a certain time we all need to process grief. For some people it's shorter; for others, it's longer. You'll know the grieving period is over when you're able to look outward more easily instead of being preoccupied with your own thoughts."
Write it out

Keep a journal, and write an entry each evening. Prathikanti encourages her patients to write whatever they want about their exes.

"The act of writing gives you the freedom and the space to say whatever you want," she says. "Say everything you have to say. Then store your journal in a special box, or burn or bury the box.

"Do not send your journal to your ex! This is a symbolic release of letting go of that person. If you're not quite ready to release this person from your life, simply store the box and let go of it in some fashion when you're ready."
Clean it up

Clean your house, your desk, your car or even a small area of your home or office. Clutter creates "emotional stickiness," Prathikanti says.

"There's something about the external act of cleaning that allows for an internal cleansing, too. It's really amazing how it can help clear away the memories associated with the relationship. It's the idea of putting away all of the tangible reminders of your relationship ? pictures, books, etc. ? that really helps you feel you can clear away your connections with that person."
Get physical

Even though you might not feel like going to the gym, this is the time to do it. "Aerobic exercise is one of the first things I encourage, but it's got to be dedicated output," Prathikanti says.

"It can have huge benefits as a mood lifter. Recent studies show that if you exercise at moderate intensity (reaching 60 to 70 percent of your maximum heart rate) five times a week, 30 minutes each time, it's as effective as an antidepressant ? but you have to be consistent about it," she adds. "When you can get past that initial hurdle, you'll feel good because your body releases serotonin, which can be very mood-enhancing."
Spend time with friends and by yourself

Whether you're an introvert or an extrovert, Prathikanti says it's important to adopt personality traits from both types.

"Extroverts can talk on and on about their breakup. And in the process they can release feelings and gain new perspective, but they need to create a space for themselves to be on their own and reflect quietly," says Prathikanti.

Conversely, if you're an introvert, it's important not to hole up. "You need to recuperate and replenish your energy through solitude. But you also have to schedule some time that will put you in touch with others ? whether it's dinner with your best friend or going to a church or community gathering instead of keeping to yourself," she says.
Nurture yourself

Touch is a key way to nurture yourself. "It's so important. I recommend people get massages or trade a back rub or foot rub with a friend in a nonsexual way," Prathikanti says. Self-massage helps, too.

"There's something very comforting about touch. We're almost hardwired to need touch, which releases endorphins and neurotransmitters like serotonin, all of which help to make you feel better physically and emotionally," she says.
Eat healthful foods

Foods rich in omega-3 fatty acids like cold-water wild fish, flaxseed and walnuts might help improve your mood. Green leafy vegetables provide folic acid and other B vitamins that seem to help prevent depression. But it can be hard to get all the nutrients you need through diet alone, so Prathikanti recommends that you also take supplements, including a broad-spectrum B vitamin pill that contains folic acid and thiamine (vitamin B1).

Look for an omega-3 fatty acid supplement that has a 2-to-1 ratio of EPA to DHA. EPA is a type of omega-3 associated with improved mood; DHA can help with cardiac health.
Maintain structure

Don't allow your breakup to envelop your life to the point that you lose your moorings, Prathikanti says. Stick to routine ? and pursue your interests. That's one of the surest ways to help get over a breakup and meet people with whom you share common interests.
Believe in yourself and your own self-worth

Identify 10 good qualities about yourself, write them down on sticky notes and place them around the house where you're likely to see them during the day. Even if you don't read them, giving yourself subliminal messages can have a powerful effect, Prathikanti says.
Be grateful

Make a "gratitude" list toward the end of your grieving period. Write down all of the things that are still good in your life despite your loss. "It's critical to recognize that there are still things remaining and to remember what those things are because they will help carry you forward," Prathikanti says.

What shouldn't you do to get through a breakup? Prathikanti offers these three tips:

    * Don't make any big life decisions like changing jobs or moving to a new house. Your judgment will not be its best right after you break up with someone.
    * Don't use alcohol or drugs to help numb your pain. They'll cause you to spiral downward. Alcohol depresses the central nervous system and can lead to increased depression over time.
    * Don't jump into a new relationship too quickly. You're more likely to repeat the mistakes that you made in the relationship you just ended. While it's tempting to try to fill the void, it's unwise in the long run because you need time to reflect on why your relationship didn't work and what you can change going forward.

Reviewed by: Val Jones, M.D.
Date reviewed: February 2007
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2009, 07:23:26 PM »

Wow - I did 8 out of the 10 without knowing about the article.  The only two I didn't do was write & eat healthy.  I won't give up the foods I like to eat healthy - so I do a little of both.  I sort of have written - by being on this site, etc - but I don't journal.

This was very good advice.
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2009, 07:58:40 PM »

Thank you Someday for that article..... I had already started doing some of that, piror to you giving it to me, thinking that cleaning up would help me to get through this hurtful event much faster.....  and thank you to everyone else for you input, I can see that HEO will be a big help to me.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2009, 09:05:29 PM »

HisChild,
Can't add much to that yet, but want to welcome you here, you have come to the right place.
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2009, 10:18:52 PM »

welcom to HEO. You are right to think this place will be a big help to you. It has been my saving grace the last couple of months.

The people here will do everything they can to help you through this hell. You may not like all that is said to you. Just know that it is said to help you through. Some things are hard to hear, but need to be said.

As for the ex. Dont put much weight into what he has to say. Do whats best for you. Ex's can be very manipulating.

good luck and god bless.
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2009, 01:48:34 AM »

Welcome and pull up a chair and stay awhile..   Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2009, 03:02:32 PM »

HisChild.......curious about your screen name, is there a story there ?

I'm sorry that life has caused you to find this place, but very glad that you did.  You have a found a safe haven in a difficult storm...welcome.  As for the heartbreak and loss you are feeling so keenly, all of the things that have been suggested so far will help immensly......but none of them will take the place of time and distance.  Your heart needs time to heal and for all the ties between you to untangle.  This isn't something that can happen quickly, I'm afraid....all healing, physical or emotional, takes time for the process to happen naturally and you can't speed it up.  But, taking care of yourself....physically, mentally, spiritually.....will help you heal emotionally.  Beginning now to create a new reality for yourself is a very positive thing, but just don't expect the past ro recede too quickly.....this is why jumping into a new relationship is both risky and decieving.  It's like putting a bandaid on a bullet hole.....it might cover it up for a while, but the wound is still there.  I suspect your ex will find this out the hard way.

Distance will also be important.  If the relationship is trully over, begin to separate yourself from him as much as possible....every encounter is like starting the clock ticking over again in some ways, especially where those ties betwen you are concerned....you need distance for those ties to disolve.  Many here can tell you how hard it is to create that distance when all your heart wants is to be with that person....and the holidays only make it worse.....but you have to Choose to make it happen, if you are going to heal.

Make changes in your life...home, exercise, new friends (like us  Wink), read, volunteer, get out and play, dietary changes (my biggest need).....all of these will help to take the focus off what you have lost, and will open doors to good things in your life to be.....the most important thing to remember, is that your life will BE.......you will survive this, and find yourself created anew with all the possibilities you can think of.  Take each day as it comes, be mindfull of the good things in your life .....and don't go it alone, you have friends here that will help you get throught this.   Welcome to the Crazy Train...you're in good company.   Grin

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